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i cannot believe that haida is inclusive of the taliban. but if we can have them agree to terms with violence , a supportive democratization we cannot afford to say no negotiation ? >> i am not as optimistic. there is no way to negotiate. the idea of the taliban office and patter? -- katar? we are cutting out too early. that is what this president does. if we don't fight this war the way it needs to be fought, a stop shedding blood the president was never in this to win. lori: what about the war in afghanistan was it worth the time? >> for me to say that it is not worth the lives lost is to disparage them but unfortunately i wish it was fought by generals visited bureaucrats. >> that is right. i agree every american and life that was lost to us -- was ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] a full life measured in seats starts with the right ones early on. car crashes are the number one killer of children 1 through 13. learn how to prevent deaths and injuries by using the right car seat for your child's age and size. lori: okay.
i cannot believe that haida is inclusive of the taliban. but if we can have them agree to terms with violence , a supportive democratization we cannot afford to say no negotiation ? >> i am not as optimistic. there is no way to negotiate. the idea of the taliban office and patter? -- katar? we are cutting out too early. that is what this president does. if we don't fight this war the way it needs to be fought, a stop shedding blood the president was never in this to win. lori: what about...
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today with the president of afghanistan hamid karzai, they're expected to discuss peace talks with the taliban and future u.s. troops before karzai sits down with the president on friday. >>> a disturbing story out of russia, what was supposed to be an enjoyable adventure took a tragic turn, as a giant inflatable zorb ball with two men inside veered off course, one man was killed and the other is in serious condition. >>> off the coast of australia, a man lost control of his boat, fell out and was swimming around nearby while the boat was spinning in circle. a police craft was finally able to rescue the boater and he is reportedly doing well. >>> and the huge doomsday asteroid made a fly-by of the u.s. last night, it's more than 1,000 feet wide and could actually hit the earth in the year 2036. >>> now for a look at wall street, the dow opened the day at 13,390 after gaining 61 points on wednesday. overseas the nikkei rose 74. >>> earnings optimism returned to the street wednesday. today, we'll see how investors react to the latest data. holiday retail sales and earnings from oil giant chevron
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is not is not just one faction and one group taliban is composed of different groups who believe in different things and we're not sure that all of them agreed to the fact that they want to have. well we learn a lot of things today perhaps not the things that we wanted to learn but we did learn a lot about the relationship between the two presidents i appreciate your reporting remarkable him via our arabic correspondent thanks so much for joining us. perhaps the most important topic that came up for debate between the two presidents today was how many troops will remain in the country after the u.s. withdrawals up until recently and we've heard numbers of anywhere between five and ten thousand troops but just days before the meeting between the two presidents was slated to take place white house deputy national security adviser ben rhodes said the administration is considering pulling all troops out of the country so we wanted to know what you think do you think that the administration will be will be true to its word it is seriously considering taking all the troops out of afghanis
is not is not just one faction and one group taliban is composed of different groups who believe in different things and we're not sure that all of them agreed to the fact that they want to have. well we learn a lot of things today perhaps not the things that we wanted to learn but we did learn a lot about the relationship between the two presidents i appreciate your reporting remarkable him via our arabic correspondent thanks so much for joining us. perhaps the most important topic that came...
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and nato will be blamed if and when that country falls in the hands of the taliban operatives again that would take afghanistan to square a zero the exact square that brought us and. doing into afghanistan as more americans oppose the war in afghanistan pressure on obama is growing the cost of the war is high just this past year the cost of the war in afghanistan was over one hundred billion dollars each soldier costs one million dollars a year and potentially a loss of life these are staggering figures and those who oppose the war say this money you could help build the nation's ailing infrastructure for r.t. america this is remarkable how washington d.c. for over ten years it's cast a shadow over u.s. diplomatic efforts the guantanamo bay detention facility opened up exactly a loving years ago today in its time it is held and interrogated at hundreds of prisoners some guilty of numerous atrocities some completely clean of crime all held without due process eleven years and still no into sight now since the first days of his first term our constitutional lawyer term president has expres
and nato will be blamed if and when that country falls in the hands of the taliban operatives again that would take afghanistan to square a zero the exact square that brought us and. doing into afghanistan as more americans oppose the war in afghanistan pressure on obama is growing the cost of the war is high just this past year the cost of the war in afghanistan was over one hundred billion dollars each soldier costs one million dollars a year and potentially a loss of life these are...
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like for them and what we will need to do to keep afghanistan from slipping back to the hands of the taliban. >>> the white house must first deal with the spending and the looming debt ceiling and if congress refuses to raise the debt ceiling coming up, the u.s. go in default. that could trigger a worse economy reaction than we feared in the fiscal cliff situation. we have the latest. if republicans refuse to raise the debt ceiling there's the possibility that the president can work around the congress, but it's likely. >> there are a couple of possibilities that are being floated around, thomas. one is that the white house could use the 14th amendment, that would allow the president to increase the debt ceiling without congress' approval, and it says validity of the public debt of the united states shall not be questioned. some democrats wrote a letter to the white house on friday saying it gives the president the authority to increase the debt ceiling unilaterally, and another option that is floated is to essentially mint a platinum coin worth a trillion dollars. this is a idea that dates
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strength now i don't think it's turned out the way the president probably wanted it to because the taliban is so clearly on the office but the idea that the president did his best he tried to send more troops it didn't work he. david as we say in the united states the old college try and it just didn't work i think for an american population that is both battered financially and very tired of endless wars and occupations this is something that will basically go go forward without a hitch in terms of american public opinion. on the way eleven years of indefinite detention we discussed about patients of washington's keeping the tories one time in the military prison of despite barack obama's long running pledge to shut down the facility. your own borders and beyond the courts eleven years on guantanamo remains open for business and r t looks at the interrogation nerve center of america's war on terror . whether you die from high or to the death. touch the power of the wind or drift in the beauty of the currents. the well prepared is a must and if you're lucky. you'll never forget your experi
strength now i don't think it's turned out the way the president probably wanted it to because the taliban is so clearly on the office but the idea that the president did his best he tried to send more troops it didn't work he. david as we say in the united states the old college try and it just didn't work i think for an american population that is both battered financially and very tired of endless wars and occupations this is something that will basically go go forward without a hitch in...
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>> 354,000 afghan national army people roughly, but the problem are the taliban, the taliban are pashtun. do you know what percent of that afghan national army are pashtun? 2%. >> that's right. >> this army, they're basically seen as northern invaders from other tribes. they're they've not been treated as a ver vant class. they make up the army. they're not going to be allowed in the helmand provinces. >> we're going to have a divided country like laeb none. >> you're absolutely right. >> the american people will be watching it on television and reading in the newspaper about beheadings and awful treatment of women in those areas controlled by the pashtuns, right? >> yes, they will, but the bigger question is what contingency of u.s. troops can stop that? >> if we're not staying in there big time, 100,000 troops basically, we might as well get out because we can't control the future of the country pvend. >> and convert it to the operation that the president talked about where we're going security and training -- >> it raises the old question when you go in 11, 12 years ago you knew you h
>> 354,000 afghan national army people roughly, but the problem are the taliban, the taliban are pashtun. do you know what percent of that afghan national army are pashtun? 2%. >> that's right. >> this army, they're basically seen as northern invaders from other tribes. they're they've not been treated as a ver vant class. they make up the army. they're not going to be allowed in the helmand provinces. >> we're going to have a divided country like laeb none. >>...
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its taliban are most important. we should facilitate it but not jump in and try to resolve the problem os ourselves. however i think that afghan journalist question on gend are equality during the press conference showed maybe an unmovable obstacle which is what the taliban do too women, on the one hand and what the afghan constitution says to protect women, on the other hand you have heard of this incident withiousev zai in pakistan where they tried to assassinate her. in afghanistan it is works the three proxies of the military, the haqqani,-- they cross the border to take on the afghan government. they are also very much involved in torching girls schools, poisoning the lunches of girls schools and killing school girl its like malani. so it is going to be hard. >> many, many compli cations, teter tomsen and said jawad, thank you very much. >> woodruff: still to come on the newshour: the faa's decision to examine the boeing 787 dreamliner; the buzz on cutting edge technology; and shields and brooks. but first, the
its taliban are most important. we should facilitate it but not jump in and try to resolve the problem os ourselves. however i think that afghan journalist question on gend are equality during the press conference showed maybe an unmovable obstacle which is what the taliban do too women, on the one hand and what the afghan constitution says to protect women, on the other hand you have heard of this incident withiousev zai in pakistan where they tried to assassinate her. in afghanistan it is...
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this will be between the harpies council and the taliban and how the taliban are dealt with. this is for iran. they are debilitated and this is the way to proceed toward reconciliation. [indiscernible] that is for the renne leadership. pakistan should not be expected -- we encourage them to be part of the process. we are trying to do probably now, we should do that. the other thing he mentioned about this strategy? -- depth, they have no chance of getting in a government controlling of afghanistan. in the -- even in the 1990's when they were strong. now the relationship has completely changed. how can there be -- it does not work out and this was never a policy. we never saw them. we did not go after them. we did not count them likely how did al qaeda. almost all the guantanamo bay detainees were captured in pakistan with the help of the pakistani. we treated them differently. as we mentioned, we wanted them to be part of the process in beginning. the strategy depth, it was in nonsensical idea. he did not explain it. afterward there had been a retreat but there has never been
this will be between the harpies council and the taliban and how the taliban are dealt with. this is for iran. they are debilitated and this is the way to proceed toward reconciliation. [indiscernible] that is for the renne leadership. pakistan should not be expected -- we encourage them to be part of the process. we are trying to do probably now, we should do that. the other thing he mentioned about this strategy? -- depth, they have no chance of getting in a government controlling of...
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and west and general taliban network and al-qaeda's low level fighters that is conducting operations and coalition forces in afghanistan. >> reporter: when asked today if john brennan directorship would result in intensification of the program, the white house declined to comment. >> shep: united nations reports that it can't get through to about one million hungry in syria. the syrian government is largely to blame. details ahead plus a new study suggests a popular blood pressure medicine could help your brain. that is coming right up. >>. >> shep: the syrian government that is shooting and bombing its people to death has found a new way to kill. blocking food aid to men, women and children. that is according to a report. the government restriction in syria and for security are preventing relief agencies to help people in serious need. the agencies are running low on food and fuel themselves. the united nations estimated some 4 million people in syria urgently need humanitarian aid. it has killed more than 60,000 people since march of 2011 according to the report. leland vittert has
and west and general taliban network and al-qaeda's low level fighters that is conducting operations and coalition forces in afghanistan. >> reporter: when asked today if john brennan directorship would result in intensification of the program, the white house declined to comment. >> shep: united nations reports that it can't get through to about one million hungry in syria. the syrian government is largely to blame. details ahead plus a new study suggests a popular blood pressure...
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in the northwest of the country in the swat valley, that's an area which had been controlled by the taliban just three years ago in the pakistani army came in, launched a sweeping operation to push them out but in recent months we've seen the taliban creeping back in a couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago, rather we had an attack on the pakistani school girl malala yousafzai who was shot by the taliban and today we had this attack on a religious congregation hundreds had gathered to hear a leader speak in the main town and the death toll in that attack was 22 and was seen as another sign the taliban was not back in swat, certainly starting to reassert their authority there. >> pelley: there was a third attack in pakistan today, this one also in quetta. who was the target? >> earlier today there was a bomb attack on a pakistani paramilitary patrol in the center of quetta. that attack was carried out by a nationalist group that later claimed control -- rather that later claimed responsibility for attack. the ethnic nationalists have been fighting against the pakistani army, against the
in the northwest of the country in the swat valley, that's an area which had been controlled by the taliban just three years ago in the pakistani army came in, launched a sweeping operation to push them out but in recent months we've seen the taliban creeping back in a couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago, rather we had an attack on the pakistani school girl malala yousafzai who was shot by the taliban and today we had this attack on a religious congregation hundreds had gathered to hear...
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troops the country will revert to the taliban you have provided options not to the president yet but to the national security staff. as you know i don't speak about options until i have had a chance to speak to the president. >> at the state department president karzai is dining tonight with secretary clinton and leon panetta. he brought a long list of military equipment that karzai needs from kabul but which what is is increasingly clear whatever u.s. presence there will be in afghanistan after 2014 will be quite small, shepard. >> jenks then there is israel. the israeli defense minister in town in washington and talking about concerns of serious chemical weapons amid that civil war. >> it's interesting, the last time that ehud barak the defense minister was in town in washington at the end the of last year. we started hearing reports that there was new intelligence suggesting that sara ran gas had been mixed and maybe even loaded into weapons inside syria. just two days ago we heard the "new york times" report that that intelligence came from israel. yesterday israeli defense minis
troops the country will revert to the taliban you have provided options not to the president yet but to the national security staff. as you know i don't speak about options until i have had a chance to speak to the president. >> at the state department president karzai is dining tonight with secretary clinton and leon panetta. he brought a long list of military equipment that karzai needs from kabul but which what is is increasingly clear whatever u.s. presence there will be in...
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in the northwest of the country in the swat valley, that's an area which had been controlled by the taliban just three years ago in the pakistani army came in launched a sweeping operation to push them out but in recent months we've seen the taliban creeping back in a couple of weeks ago a couple of months ago, rather we had an attack on the pakistani school girl malala yousafzai who was shot by the taliban and today we had this attack on a religious congregation hundreds had gathered to hear a leader speak in the main town and the death toll in that attack was 22 and was seen as another sign the taliban was not back in swat certainly starting to reassert their authority there. >> pelley: there was a third attack in pakistan today this one also in quetta. who was the target? >> earlier today there was a bomb attack on a pakistani paramilitary patrol in the center of quetta. that attack was carried out by a nationalist group that later claimed control -- rather that later claimed responsibility for attack. the ethnic nationalists have been fighting against the pakistani army against the stat
in the northwest of the country in the swat valley, that's an area which had been controlled by the taliban just three years ago in the pakistani army came in launched a sweeping operation to push them out but in recent months we've seen the taliban creeping back in a couple of weeks ago a couple of months ago, rather we had an attack on the pakistani school girl malala yousafzai who was shot by the taliban and today we had this attack on a religious congregation hundreds had gathered to hear a...
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when you talk to afghans in remote villages and ones who have seen the air strikes, taliban coming into their villages from other provinces, other countries even. they are ready for the fight to be over, but they don't know what will cop after. when you talk to afghans in the cities like kabul, herat, when you talk to those afghans, they have seen the difference in the last decade, seen the internet come to the city, more than 30 television stations after zero after the taliban. radio stations, media fashion industry growing in afghanistan. those are the afghans who are afraid of the international community leaving, they believe america won't abandon them, because they have a fear of what will happen after 2014, and that means possibly the taliban coming back, possibly a civil war. >> you get a sense that the goal after 2014 is zero u.s. troops in afghanistan? >> the last several years, when i spoke with military and diplomatic officials, they kept repeating they will never abandon afghanistan again. when you talk on background to some of the ambassadors from different countries, some g
when you talk to afghans in remote villages and ones who have seen the air strikes, taliban coming into their villages from other provinces, other countries even. they are ready for the fight to be over, but they don't know what will cop after. when you talk to afghans in the cities like kabul, herat, when you talk to those afghans, they have seen the difference in the last decade, seen the internet come to the city, more than 30 television stations after zero after the taliban. radio stations,...
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the afghans in the rural villages and place we see most of the fighting and most of the soldiers and taliban, they are ready for a withdrawal because they feel if the withdrawal happens, there will be less fighting. but many analysts say the fighting will continue. >> on a side note, real interesting, before we let you go, we don't get much face time with atia, we were talking about movies coming to afghanistan, zero dark thirty, whether it was seen there yet. girls going back to school. here in america we think all children need to be educated. women can't go to the movie theater in afghanistan. >> no, they can't. if they try to it would be a dangerous prospect. the men that go to the movie theaters, we have to remember afghanistan doesn't have a class that have jobs, many boys are going there and causing troubles. girls cannot go and bear by go out by themselves without being harassed. massive sexual harass. me ment on the streets. there are children providing for their families and treated pretty badly. >> we need to continue talking about this. thanks for being here. great to see you. as
the afghans in the rural villages and place we see most of the fighting and most of the soldiers and taliban, they are ready for a withdrawal because they feel if the withdrawal happens, there will be less fighting. but many analysts say the fighting will continue. >> on a side note, real interesting, before we let you go, we don't get much face time with atia, we were talking about movies coming to afghanistan, zero dark thirty, whether it was seen there yet. girls going back to school....
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the taliban to work with the afghan government and not against it. jamie. >> jamie: molly henneberg live in washington. good to see you and thank you. >>> serious new developments in a new al-qaeda hot spot in west africa. as we heard in that piece, french forces are launching air strikes on targets in mali, a former french colony. the operation coming after an appeal for help from mali's president. the attacks are driving islamic rebels out of a key city and destroying a militant command center. according to the "wall street journal," paris is asking the u.s. to send drone there is to support the campaign and france is raising its own terror threat level as a result of the strike. it's important to understand that the al-qaeda group there is one of the most dangerous offshoots of the terror group in the entire world. they've essentially carved out their own territory in the lawless desert region in the northern part of the country over the past nine months. we'll have much more to come on this developing story. gregg? >> gregg: a new push this week
the taliban to work with the afghan government and not against it. jamie. >> jamie: molly henneberg live in washington. good to see you and thank you. >>> serious new developments in a new al-qaeda hot spot in west africa. as we heard in that piece, french forces are launching air strikes on targets in mali, a former french colony. the operation coming after an appeal for help from mali's president. the attacks are driving islamic rebels out of a key city and destroying a...
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wracked by decades of war and foreign invasion, afghanistan was suffering under the barbaric rule of the taliban until the u.s. -led invasion of 2001. >> we are committed to doing everything we can to assist you in this time of transition to new afghanistan and afghanistan where people will be able to live in peace. >> it's now a democratic country with an elected government, with human rights for all. >> hamid karzai made his first visit to washington 11 years ago this month. >> how do you expect american forces to stay in afghanistan? >> as long as we are still have terrorist items. and as long as the bad guys are there. americans go out, unless we finish the job. >> how many american troops will remain after the u.s. combat mission ends next year is now being decided. karzai may not like the answer. >> president karzai relationship with president bush was very congenial. but it all changed when president obama came to office. president karzai got increasingly distant largely by the assessment by some there, the insiders in washington that president karzai was part of the problem. >> two natio
wracked by decades of war and foreign invasion, afghanistan was suffering under the barbaric rule of the taliban until the u.s. -led invasion of 2001. >> we are committed to doing everything we can to assist you in this time of transition to new afghanistan and afghanistan where people will be able to live in peace. >> it's now a democratic country with an elected government, with human rights for all. >> hamid karzai made his first visit to washington 11 years ago this month....
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to gut punch the taliban and soften up the system. if you can chaung the circumstances, the military overpromised and underdelivered, and i think that the resolve of not only the president and joe biden having always been in that view, in coordination with others, and really, really recalled that deal in the terms and the deal and took troops back. and that broke the back of the notion that a large military footprint delivered automatically the kind of security deliverables that the military was promising. it created low back and counterreaction much like the lines that you showed in elizabeth miller piece, more violence after the surge than before the surge. >> that i think is the key conceptual transition that we went through, that we decoupled in our minds the idea of security advances from troop numbers. when you have the troop numbers, we didn't get the advances called, so you don't get troop numbers in definitely. they haven't been proven to have the strategic effect, that break in that logic train has happened in the national s
to gut punch the taliban and soften up the system. if you can chaung the circumstances, the military overpromised and underdelivered, and i think that the resolve of not only the president and joe biden having always been in that view, in coordination with others, and really, really recalled that deal in the terms and the deal and took troops back. and that broke the back of the notion that a large military footprint delivered automatically the kind of security deliverables that the military...
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taliban claims responsibility saying that the shooter was killed later a check point. 6 is people were killed in insideer attacks last year. egypt president will urge president obama to free rackmand who sevenk live sentence for i it can on the world trade center in 1993. they said if he should be allowed visitors and aanalysis tance. suspect is freed and senator wants answered. latest on what we know and don't know about the benghazi libya terror attack. the fox all-stars discuss when we return. [ male annocer ] edmunds.com says the all-new nissan altima is a better car than camry. to argue would be rude. nissan altima. with moving-object detection. lease now. just $199 per month. visit choosenissan.com. road and track called sentra an economy car minus the look and feel of an economy car. wonder how civic and corolla look and feel about that. the all-new nissan sentra, with best-in-class mpg. lease for $169 per month. visit choosenissan.com. >>> it would be unformnate i think if in pursuit of this issue which was highly politicized, the senate would hold up the nomination of john bre
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i will give you 30,000 troops on top of what is already there to gut punch the taliban and try to soften up the system. and that's all you get. if you can change the circumstances. the military overpromised and underdelivered. and i think that the resolve of not only the president, but joe biden having always been in that view in coordination with others on the team like dennis mcdonough and tom donilon, really recall the deal and the terms of the deal and they took the troops back. and that broke the back of a notion that a large military footprint delivered automatically the kind of security deliverables that the military was promising. it actually created blowback and counter reaction much like the alliance that you showed in that piece that there is more violence after the surge than before the surge. >> that i think is the key c conceptual that security advances from troop numbers. you didn't get the advances you said would come with the troop numbers. so now you don't get troop numbers indefinitely because they haven't been proven to have the strategic effect that you said they wou
i will give you 30,000 troops on top of what is already there to gut punch the taliban and try to soften up the system. and that's all you get. if you can change the circumstances. the military overpromised and underdelivered. and i think that the resolve of not only the president, but joe biden having always been in that view in coordination with others on the team like dennis mcdonough and tom donilon, really recall the deal and the terms of the deal and they took the troops back. and that...
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the people who enjoy a statement like that are the taliban and al qaeda. we have an unreliable ally in president karzai, he is erratic and this will cause him to be even more erratic and our own ally will be looking at us and saying, no, where is the united states going. no, judy, i think this was a highly injudicious statement. >> celeste ward gventer, an injudicious statement and bad idea? >> well i have the greate respect for bing wtnd i'm honored to be on the show with him but i respectfully disagree. for us to be talking about troop levels right now putting the cart before the horse in any case. because frankly we should be talking about our vision for the region strategically. in any event we still need consider that having no troops there is a real option, and i think to ignore that option would be strategically foolish. we heard about the supposed apandora's box lips that was coming if u.s. troops left iraq. u.s. troops left iraq and the apocalypse has not arrive. that is an option fr us a woud be irresponsible for us not to consider it. >> bing we
the people who enjoy a statement like that are the taliban and al qaeda. we have an unreliable ally in president karzai, he is erratic and this will cause him to be even more erratic and our own ally will be looking at us and saying, no, where is the united states going. no, judy, i think this was a highly injudicious statement. >> celeste ward gventer, an injudicious statement and bad idea? >> well i have the greate respect for bing wtnd i'm honored to be on the show with him but i...
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the people who enjoy a statement like that are the taliban and al qaeda. we have an unreliable ally in president karzai, he is erratic and this will cause him to be even more erratic and our own ally will be looking at us and saying, no, where is the united states going. no, judy, i think this was a highly injudicious statement. >> celeste ward gventer, an injudicious statement and bad idea? >> well i have the greatest respect for bing west and i'm honored to be on the show with him but i respectfully disagree. for us to be talking about troop levels right now putting the cart before the horse in any case. because frankly we should be talking about our vision for the region strategically. in any event we still need consider that having no troops there is a real option and i think to ignore that option would be strategically foolish. we heard about the supposed apandora's box lips that was coming if u.s. troops left iraq. u.s. troops left iraq and the apocalypse has not arrive. that is an option for us and it would be irresponsible for us not to consider it
the people who enjoy a statement like that are the taliban and al qaeda. we have an unreliable ally in president karzai, he is erratic and this will cause him to be even more erratic and our own ally will be looking at us and saying, no, where is the united states going. no, judy, i think this was a highly injudicious statement. >> celeste ward gventer, an injudicious statement and bad idea? >> well i have the greatest respect for bing west and i'm honored to be on the show with him...
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the taliban have a saying in afghanistan, talking about the u.s. they say you have the watches. we have the time. and they're just watching this debate in washington and calculating when they're going to be able to get back into power. bill: do you really believe that though? do you buy that public argument they're making, we will entertain the possibility that we leave zero troops behind? or is that just a negotiating ploy with karzai on friday? >> well look, we're not there to help karzai. i don't have anything against him or the people of afghanistan but we're not in that country to secure his regime or give those people a better life. we're there to prevent taliban from retaking control of the country and once again using it as a base for international terrorism and, endangering the government of pakistan and risking the prospect that pakistan is very substantial arsenal of nuclear weapons would fall into radical hands. that's why we're there and if we lose sight of that and i think that's what the administration is doing, we'll find ourselves sooner, rather than later, unde
the taliban have a saying in afghanistan, talking about the u.s. they say you have the watches. we have the time. and they're just watching this debate in washington and calculating when they're going to be able to get back into power. bill: do you really believe that though? do you buy that public argument they're making, we will entertain the possibility that we leave zero troops behind? or is that just a negotiating ploy with karzai on friday? >> well look, we're not there to help...
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we have weakened the taliban. they do remain resilient. we know they are still out there. but we have been able to take the battle to the taliban and prevent them from gaining an -- territory they lost. we are in seeing the afghan military that is improving its ability to be operational. we have now gone through a transition of areas that involve 75% of the population of afghanistan. those transitions are moving in the right direction. and they are providing the primary security with regard to all those areas. in addition to that, we have our and we are moving the fourth tranche and next year we will implement the final one in this transition. progress is being made. progress is being made on the battlefield, with regard to the society in afghanistan, the education and health care of afghans in it -- is improving. is it everything we want? now. is it everything we would hope it would be able to achieve? not yet. but we are moving in the right direction. i think we really have the opportunity to be able to put this in the right place and complete this mission. i think the a
we have weakened the taliban. they do remain resilient. we know they are still out there. but we have been able to take the battle to the taliban and prevent them from gaining an -- territory they lost. we are in seeing the afghan military that is improving its ability to be operational. we have now gone through a transition of areas that involve 75% of the population of afghanistan. those transitions are moving in the right direction. and they are providing the primary security with regard to...
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to the taliban. they cite a high unemployment rate for the reason for their frustration. what will you do to combat this trend? >> the high peace council whose chairman is here with us, a fund is dedicated to this purpose. this is the reintegration program. they are driven back with society. if there are instances, and i am sure there are, it requires assistance sooner and we will definitely look at it. it is a very important question, thank you for reminding us. >> the last student organization we would invite is the muslim student association. >> good evening, mr. president. i am with the moslem student association. we understand education as a vital factor in the overall growth and future stability of afghanistan. educated citizens can drive change from within. what are your plans short-term and long-term to ensure that this progress that you mentioned of education continues to move forward? especially in regard to increased access of education for women. >> we did see a great deal of violence aga
to the taliban. they cite a high unemployment rate for the reason for their frustration. what will you do to combat this trend? >> the high peace council whose chairman is here with us, a fund is dedicated to this purpose. this is the reintegration program. they are driven back with society. if there are instances, and i am sure there are, it requires assistance sooner and we will definitely look at it. it is a very important question, thank you for reminding us. >> the last student...
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criticizing the taliban who banned schooling for girls. she was shot in the head and neck and october after her school bus was stopped by taliban gunmen who demand the other children identify her. it provoked calls for a crack down on militants. she was evacuated to britain for medical treatment and an international symbol of courage. hundreds of thousands signed a petition and awarded the nobel peace prize. >> they are subjected to violence all the time and speaking out about their rights, she was a child speaking out about her rights in a very, very difficult context. she spoke how knowing that she could be subjected to violence, what makes it even more interesting is that she had the support of her family, particularly her father to actually speak out. >> the focus is on her first steps. her father has been given a job at pakistan's consulate allowing the family to stay in britain for the years of therapy and medical treatment. that now lies ahead. that job is for a period of at least three years with the possibility of an extension aft
criticizing the taliban who banned schooling for girls. she was shot in the head and neck and october after her school bus was stopped by taliban gunmen who demand the other children identify her. it provoked calls for a crack down on militants. she was evacuated to britain for medical treatment and an international symbol of courage. hundreds of thousands signed a petition and awarded the nobel peace prize. >> they are subjected to violence all the time and speaking out about their...
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would start to leave a vacuum and a vulnerability to the afghan government that would be filled by taliban for sure and could result in an afghanistan that we found before the turn of this century. >> so you would recommend against it. >> if i were still in office, yes, i would. i think there's potential there in afghanistan to make the place a lot more secure with afghan forces, but it's going to take more time than we have currently. >> why do you think the white house may see it differently? >> i think part of it is there's always tension between getting afghans to take responsibility for their own actions and making sure they're doing all they can and not overly relying on u.s. and allied forces. so i think part of what we're seeing is playing out probably in the media here is to put some pressure on the karzai government to be realistic about their expectations and make sure that the afghans are doing all they can to ensure their own security. >> what might come out of a karzai visit? >> well, i would hope one of the things that would come out of it is some sort of agreement on what s
would start to leave a vacuum and a vulnerability to the afghan government that would be filled by taliban for sure and could result in an afghanistan that we found before the turn of this century. >> so you would recommend against it. >> if i were still in office, yes, i would. i think there's potential there in afghanistan to make the place a lot more secure with afghan forces, but it's going to take more time than we have currently. >> why do you think the white house may...